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Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound.   But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it.

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Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound. But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it.

Start by checking to see if the send and return cables are properly seated; also, that the footswitch is firmly plugged in. Are you able to find another compatible footswitch?  Might be the switch is broken and you are stuck in the off position.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound. But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it. Start by checking to see if the send and return cables are properly seated; also, that the footswitch is firmly plugged in. Are you able to find another compatible footswitch?  Might be the switch is broken and you are stuck in the off position.

What year, brand and model of amp? Besides checking the cable and switch connections and conductivity, as Phil suggests, you can eliminate the output of the tank, or the amp’s recovery circuit because you are hearing the "splash" when moving the tank. So… If all above checks out, the next step is to examine the tank’s input and amp’s reverb drive circuit. John King

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 Make sure the iput and output cables going to the reverb aren’t swapped.  Sometimes the little wires inside the tank that connect the transducers to the in and out jacks break.  A simple continuity check at the in and out jacks can usually determine if this is the case

: Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? : Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the : standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound. :   But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it.

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It is an Ampeg G12, about 1970 (not the blue diamond tolex model, but the rolling stones style). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound. But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it. Start by checking to see if the send and return cables are properly seated; also, that the footswitch is firmly plugged in. Are you able to find another compatible footswitch?  Might be the switch is broken and you are stuck in the off position. What year, brand and model of amp? Besides checking the cable and switch connections and conductivity, as Phil suggests, you can eliminate the output of the tank, or the amp’s recovery circuit because you are hearing the "splash" when moving the tank. So… If all above checks out, the next step is to examine the tank’s input and amp’s reverb drive circuit. John King

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It is an Ampeg G12, about 1970 (not the blue diamond tolex model, but the rolling stones style). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What year, brand and model of amp? John King

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It is an Ampeg G12, about 1970 (not the blue diamond tolex model, but the rolling stones style).

Do you have a schematic to work from? If not, I can email the good one done by Joe Piazza. As I said in an earlier post, since you can hear the tank "splash" when moved, the tank output and amp’s recovery circuit are not the problem. The problem lies somewhere before the springs in the tank. Possibly the input transducer, or wires leading to it, the input cable back to the chassis, are both possible suspects. As I recall, I tried swapping the reverb drive tube for one I thought was good, but if you’ve got one around to try, it couldn’t hurt to plug it in just to be sure. Now here’s where I stopped. I suspected that the problem was somewhere in the drive circuit internal to the chassis, and I just wasn’t in a hurry (or the mood) to pull that chassis. If it comes the that, once the chassis is out, the diagnosis may still be an easy fix, but there is no way of knowing that until (if) you get there. Poke around, with the external connections, tubes etc,,, and see what you come up with. If it comes time to pull the chassis and do further diagnostics, are you qualified, at least safety aware enough to be inside a tube amp? Get back, and I’ll help any I can. Maybe others will continue to help too! Thanks and regards, John King

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Yes, taking out the amp is a pain, especially on these Ampegs.  I helped a friend with his G22 and it became a domino effect scenario of things to disconnect and unscrew just to look inside the amp (not to mention the screws are not standard nor philips). I’ll try everying I can before doing that but I will most likely have to at some point. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is an Ampeg G12, about 1970 (not the blue diamond tolex model, but the rolling stones style). Do you have a schematic to work from? If not, I can email the good one done by Joe Piazza. As I said in an earlier post, since you can hear the tank "splash" when moved, the tank output and amp’s recovery circuit are not the problem. The problem lies somewhere before the springs in the tank. Possibly the input transducer, or wires leading to it, the input cable back to the chassis, are both possible suspects. As I recall, I tried swapping the reverb drive tube for one I thought was good, but if you’ve got one around to try, it couldn’t hurt to plug it in just to be sure. Now here’s where I stopped. I suspected that the problem was somewhere in the drive circuit internal to the chassis, and I just wasn’t in a hurry (or the mood) to pull that chassis. If it comes the that, once the chassis is out, the diagnosis may still be an easy fix, but there is no way of knowing that until (if) you get there. Poke around, with the external connections, tubes etc,,, and see what you come up with. If it comes time to pull the chassis and do further diagnostics, are you qualified, at least safety aware enough to be inside a tube amp? Get back, and I’ll help any I can. Maybe others will continue to help too! Thanks and regards, John King

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 Another thing you can try as a test of whether the problem is in the reverb tank itself or in the electronics of the amp  is to simply bypass the tank altogether using a simple phono to phono female adapter or by simply holding the two plugs together so that the center pins are touching each other and also the outer ground rings are touching each other.  If you get a large amount of guitar gain when cranking up the reverb intensity control in this "bypass mode" then probably the amp electronics are OK and the problem is in the tank.  If you get either no boost of the signal or only a modest boost ( due to parasitical leakage) in bypass mode, then the tank may well be ok and the problem will probably be in the electronics.

: Any idea on what I might need to fix if my amp’s reverb will not engage? : Regardless of clicking the footswitch, if I move the amp, I hear the : standard rumble of reverb.  If I tap on the tank, it has an echo sound. :   But when I play guitar, the guitar does not have any reverb on it.

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Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts?? — Glycemic

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??     I eat the frosted kind myself.  I just account for the calories the same way I would any other food, and make sure that at the end of the day (or week, if necessary) I have some sort of calorie deficit going. I’m not on any named diet, and feel free to eat what food item I want. I just have to keep in mind that if I want to lose weight (and I do) then I need to make sure that overall I am eating less than I am burning off. In general I almost agree with this, but I do think there’s something to the idea that simple carbs burn faster, pump up your insulin levels, interfere with fat dumping, an leave you hungrier sooner. I’ve come to the conclusion that this is something that varies from one person to another.  I’ve never experienced it, myself, and occasionally ate simple sugars throughout my weight loss and still do.

because of my celiac this was never an option but I consume a fair share if honey. — Diva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman

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Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??

    I eat the frosted kind myself.  I just account for the calories the same way I would any other food, and make sure that at the end of the day (or week, if necessary) I have some sort of calorie deficit going. I’m not on any named diet, and feel free to eat what food item I want. I just have to keep in mind that if I want to lose weight (and I do) then I need to make sure that overall I am eating less than I am burning off.      Do you log your food, and make sure that you are eating proper portions?  I think that would make a much bigger difference than the type of miniwheats you purchase. — Annie 258/224.5/140  Standing at 5 foot 4. 33.5 pounds lost.  84.5 left to go. Started February/07/05

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What I learned in my dieting experience is to avoid junk sugar calories and go for quality fat & protein calories.  I love frosted miniwheats too, but the side panel says it is 1/5th sugar… in your average bowl of 25 pieces, imagine 5 of them are solid white sugar for a true picture of what you are eating.

except I usually have a small bowl and put 18 pieces at most. But hey, I need my morning sugar kick!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??     I eat the frosted kind myself.  I just account for the calories the same way I would any other food, and make sure that at the end of the day (or week, if necessary) I have some sort of calorie deficit going. I’m not on any named diet, and feel free to eat what food item I want. I just have to keep in mind that if I want to lose weight (and I do) then I need to make sure that overall I am eating less than I am burning off.

In general I almost agree with this, but I do think there’s something to the idea that simple carbs burn faster, pump up your insulin levels, interfere with fat dumping, an leave you hungrier sooner. I should do experiments or something…    Do you log your food, and make sure that you are eating proper portions?  I think that would make a much bigger difference than the type of miniwheats you purchase.

Indeed, without controlling the calories in vs. calories out nobody’s going to be making progress unless they’re on a ketogenic diet or something.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??     I eat the frosted kind myself.  I just account for the calories the same way I would any other food, and make sure that at the end of the day (or week, if necessary) I have some sort of calorie deficit going. I’m not on any named diet, and feel free to eat what food item I want. I just have to keep in mind that if I want to lose weight (and I do) then I need to make sure that overall I am eating less than I am burning off. In general I almost agree with this, but I do think there’s something to the idea that simple carbs burn faster, pump up your insulin levels, interfere with fat dumping, an leave you hungrier sooner.

I’ve come to the conclusion that this is something that varies from one person to another.  I’ve never experienced it, myself, and occasionally ate simple sugars throughout my weight loss and still do. (Though I’ve never been into sugary cereal.)  But so many people report this experience that I’ve changed my initial impression that it was all baloney . I should do experiments or something…

I’d recommend this.  You might as well see what works for you. Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

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Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity??

Maybe… That stuff is… nasty from a sugar standpoint. Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??

I’m no medical professional, but maintaining a weight loss trend requires caloric deficits, yet the body will fight these deficits with various complicated hormonal responses that I don’t think anybody really understands. What I learned in my dieting experience is to avoid junk sugar calories and go for quality fat & protein calories.  I love frosted miniwheats too, but the side panel says it is 1/5th sugar… in your average bowl of 25 pieces, imagine 5 of them are solid white sugar for a true picture of what you are eating. In the end I went with Cheerios instead, but Cheerios is no health cereal (it has a similar level of carbs: 40g out of a 60g serving) but fwiw has a 2x better vitamin profile, only has 2g of sugar in a 60g serving, and tastes pretty good with a scoop of vanilla protein powder (better than miniwheats!). hmm, from a "carb" blood-sugar standpoint I do wonder what the difference is between 60g of Cheerios and 60g of miniwheats. Both are ~200kcal and both are mostly carbs. Theoretically the ‘whole oats’ of Cheerios would slow the absorption of glucose, but the 2nd ingredient on Cheerios is modified corn starch and the 3rd is corn starch, and of course starch is just glucose arranged like this: g/g/g/g/g/g, so in the end your blood is getting a lot of glucose from either. Anyhoo, in my diet I found the ~350kcal I got from my morning cheerios + protein powder was enough to get me started and my 500kcal lunch, leaving me about 1000kcal for late afternoon/evening feedings (I would put in a good hour or two on the bike most days to give me more caloric headroom).

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Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??

I think it depends on your overweight problem. If you’re close to normal weight, then eating frosted mini-wheats several times a week is not a problem.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts?? — Glycemic Why would you want a sugar frosted cereal? It may be a "staple" in North American diets but IMO it is not the best breakfast choice. If you want cereal, slect one that does not have refined sugar and use fresh fruit to liven it up. — Diva ****** There is no substitute for the right food

I’ll second that. It seems obvious.  Refined sugars are the enemy. They should be used with great moderation, or not at all. Heidi 262/201/200 Losing 100lbs.  1 lb. at a time. Start 10/24/04

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Sorry to joke, didn’t realize how serious that is. But it sounds like it is gluten that is the problem more than sugar, for celiac disease. Did I read that right, or do you have a variant of the disease that prevents you from eating sugar, too?? — Glycemic

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Thank you all, for your responses!! I went shopping last night (at Winco, for those familiar) and I was at first dismayed to find Shredded Wheat at over $3 for about 15 oz. But I kept searching and found spoon size Shredded Wheat at $2 for  a little more than a  lb. Quite a difference in price. I also purchased low fat soy milk and have now enjoyed a delicious bowl of SSSW and and soy milk. Easy to make, nutritious, not too quickly digestible (I think). It is not that I am impoverished. It is just that I just can’t stand to feel cheated because I have spent so much on mere wheat that has been shredded up. The soy milk was less than a buck a quart. What a deal!! Tim 252/252/170 Started June 28, 2005 — Glycemic

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Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society).

And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning

myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss

efforts?? Any thoughts?? — Glycemic Why would you want a sugar frosted cereal? It may be a "staple" in North American diets but IMO it is not the best breakfast choice. If you want cereal, slect one that does not have refined sugar and use fresh fruit to liven it up. — Diva ****** There is no substitute for the right food

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Is a celiac a sort of pet that eats up sweet food before the pet owner can get to them??  Is it a type of dog?? Couldn’t you train it not to break into your cupboards??

– Glycemic Are you a troll, a nut case or just plain ignorant? Look it up on Google. if it’s a pet than it is a Pit Bull as when it bites, it hurts.

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Is a celiac a sort of pet that eats up sweet food before the pet owner can get to them??  Is it a type of dog?? Couldn’t you train it not to break into your cupboards?? — Glycemic

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Thank you all, for your responses!! I went shopping last night (at Winco, for those familiar)

Get the bulk smoked almonds at Winco. They’re blue-diamond brand, my favorite, and 30 almonds make a great snack in the afternoon with a big glass of water. I also purchased low fat soy milk

see my addendum about low-fat dieting in the other thread.

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see my addendum about low-fat dieting in the other thread.

   I’m low fat dieting, and it is working great for me.  Sorry, but I don’t really have the time to google your old posts to try to find out what you are talking about here. — Annie 258/224.5/140  Standing at 5 foot 4. 33.5 pounds lost.  84.5 left to go. Started February/07/05

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Sorry to joke, didn’t realize how serious that is. But it sounds like it is gluten that is the problem more than sugar, for celiac disease. Did I read that right, or do you have a variant of the disease that prevents you from eating sugar, too??

– Glycemic To understand that it is not only sugar but soy, corn, grain, potatoes, and rice go to: www.breakingthevisiouscycle.info — Diva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman

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I’m low fat dieting, and it is working great for me.  Sorry, but I don’t really have the time to google your old posts to try to find out what you are talking about here.

obviously, whatever works, works. I just found I didn’t have to cut out the "fat" to lose weight, since if you count the calories your body will put them to good use. I also think that fats may be better than carbs when eating a calorie limited diet, up to around a 30-30-30 balance between fats, carbs, and protein, since they give your stomach something to work on and don’t drive up blood sugars so much. Plus I also think the body might stay out of "starvation mode" better if you eat enough fats. I have absolutely no basis for this belief but I’d like to think it’s true

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I just found I didn’t have to cut out the "fat" to lose weight, since if you count the calories your body will put them to good use.

   I’m not cutting out fat either.  I’m really low calorie dieting, and since fat is calorie heavy I find that I am choosing foods that are lower in, and thus tending to be lower calorie.  Yeah, I know some low or no fat products can be pretty high calorie too! I also think that fats may be better than carbs when eating a calorie limited diet, up to around a 30-30-30 balance between fats, carbs, and protein, since they give your stomach something to work on and don’t drive up blood sugars so much.

   I can definitely see that working for some people.  I’m actually pretty close to that, I think.  According to Fitday, my daily f-c-p ratio averages about 20-60-20.  Ok, the carb count is higher than your ratio (which only adds up to 90%, which threw me at first).  But the fat and protein isn’t that much lower.  Like you say, whatever works, works. Plus I also think the body might stay out of "starvation mode" better if you eat enough fats. I have absolutely no basis for this belief but I’d like to think it’s true

   It could be true, I suppose.  I have no basis to believe that it isn’t! — Annie 258/224.5/140  Standing at 5 foot 4. 33.5 pounds lost.  84.5 left to go. Started February/07/05

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Maybe… That stuff is… nasty from a sugar standpoint. Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts?? I’m no medical professional, but maintaining a weight loss trend requires caloric deficits, yet the body will fight these deficits with various complicated hormonal responses that I don’t think anybody really understands. What I learned in my dieting experience is to avoid junk sugar calories and go for quality fat & protein calories.  I love frosted miniwheats too, but the side panel says it is 1/5th sugar… in your average bowl of 25 pieces, imagine 5 of them are solid white sugar for a true picture of what you are eating. In the end I went with Cheerios instead, but Cheerios is no health cereal (it has a similar level of carbs: 40g out of a 60g serving) but fwiw has a 2x better vitamin profile, only has 2g of sugar in a 60g serving, and tastes pretty good with a scoop of vanilla protein powder (better than miniwheats!).

I think that cheerios (74) have a higher GI than mini-wheats (58) which makes sense since they are lower in fiber.  Cheerios has 3g of fiber per cup (110 cals) and Frosted Minis have 6 per serving (200 cals). (as you said, if you look at it by 2 oz serving, though, they are very similar in calories and fiber content). At any rate, whatever works for you!  ;-) — jmk in NC

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Any thoughts??? Frosted miniwheats are cheaper, because I can get them as a bag cereal (I guess they are more of a staple in our society). And……well….I do kinda like the sugar frosting. Am I condemning myself to a lifetime of obesity?? Short circuiting my weight loss efforts?? Any thoughts??

DH eats the frosted kind.  His rule of thumb is that it needs to not be unreasonable calorie wise and that it needs at least 5g/fiber per serving (or he gets a snack attack).  His WOE is just moderate everything and his weight fine.  I’m the one in the household that needed intervention regarding weight, although since I changed my WOE and I do the cooking and grocery shopping, his has more or less gravitated in the direction that I have gone (he is on his own for lunch but usually brings leftovers from dinner, etc.).  He has gone down in waist size and lost a few pounds during my journey and I feel that he is on track — not that he was OFF track before but having a greater awareness is a good thing, I think. — jmk in NC

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Reeses cups are great but the giant godzilla steal your heart, reshape your dreams and loyalties, fall on the floor quivering in ectasy candy is…. Cadbury Cream Eggs. They usually only sell them around easter time. http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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Cadbury Cream Eggs.

Excellent.  I also like Baby Ruth, Butterfinger, Almond Joy, Twix, and Bit O’ Honey.

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My favourite has always been puffed rice chocolate.  It’s available only   in ethnic stores around here.  There is a half-decent substitute on the NA market but I forget the name. -wl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Roman S. wrote:

damod…@webtv.net wrote: Cadbury Cream Eggs. Excellent.  I also like Baby Ruth, Butterfinger, Almond Joy, Twix, and Bit O’ Honey.

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Yes, Cadbury Cream Eggs are delicious. In Australia we also have Cadbury Chocolate Truffle Eggs and Cadbury White Chocolate Eggs. Both are equally delicious. <damod…@webtv.net

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you better have some chocolate bars for me. i like YooHoo, but today i’ll get a Coke.  i want something else like some candy too maybe Nerds. michael

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you better have some chocolate bars for me. i like YooHoo, but today i’ll get a Coke.  i want something else like some candy too maybe Nerds.

They still make Nerds?  I remember they came out with Nerds cereal for a short time.  I’d get Strawberry Quik, York Peppermint Patties, Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups, Kit Kat, Nestle Crunch, and Blue Diamond Smoked Almonds.

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mmmm, Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups!! We don’t have them in Australia (at least not that I know of).  I tried them when I was in Canada afew years ago and they were so so yummy!! I also love the Italian Chocolate called Baci – it is my favourite. I find that usually Chocolate can bring about allsorts of happy feelings, probably due to the fact that when you eat chocolate you get the happy hormones called endorphins, which is the same fantastic hormone you get when you have sex. Go Endorphins!! "Roman S." <r…@att.net

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As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.     (Scene 1)     KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn’t it?     KATE’S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you     asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain     he will amount to nothing.     KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our ’90s audience, because of     course Picasso later amounted to quite a bit, after this boat sank.     LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I’m Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have     seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me.     You are very pretty.     KATE: Thank you. So are you.     LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you, in fact. I am going to     put on my "brooding"  face now, to ensure that women will keep     coming back again and again to see this movie. Later, my     white shirt will be soaking wet.       KATE: While you’re doing     that, I will concentrate on standing here and looking pretty,     to keep the men in the audience interested until the boat     sinks and people start dying.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even     though you saved my fiancee’s life. I am going to sneer at     you and treat you like dirt because you’re poor, and then     I’ll probably be physically abusive to my fiancee, and then,     just to make sure the audience really hates me, and to make     sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps I’ll     throw an elderly person into the water.     AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at     least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours,     and plus, you’re trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so     therefore we hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is     coming between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even     though he is only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!)     * * *     (Scene 2)     LEONARDO: I’m glad we snuck away like this so that you could     cheat on your fiancee.     KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a     commitment to marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb     into the backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that     I am the heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience     forgive me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if     my fiance were to do the same thing to me.     AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo!     LEONARDO: I agree. First I would like to draw you, though, so     of course you will have to take off all your clothes.     KATE: But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be     at all successful in, say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not     stand for that sort of thing?     LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three     weeks the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theatre in     Provo will sell out.     NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is     exactly what happened.     KATE: All right, then. (sound of clothes hitting the floor)     * * *     (Scene 3)     FIRST MATE: Captain, we’re about to hit an iceberg.     CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (sound of drinking)     ICEBERG: (hits boat)     FIRST MATE: That can’t be good.     CAPTAIN: Bottoms up!     AUDIENCE: (silence)     FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools.     AUDIENCE: Baa! Moo! Where’s Leonardo?     * * *     (Scene 4)     LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking.     KATE: That is terrible.     LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more immoral-but-justified     behavior?     KATE: Certainly.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me, I-     AUDIENCE: Boo! Boo!     WEASELLY FIANCE: (aside) I’m getting the raw end of the deal     here.     (to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my morally-dubious-yet-somehow-     less-annoying-than-you personality, I am going     to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon be filling     with water, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe has been     mentioned previously.     LEONARDO: Why don’t you just shoot me?     WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn’t be able to escape     and save Kate from me. Of course, you’re going to die anyway-     AUDIENCE: Don’t spoil it for us! Boo!     LEONARDO: He’s right, though. I am doomed.     AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he’s doomed.     WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people.     * * *     (Scene 5)     150-YEAR-OLD KATE: And that’s when Leonardo rescued me from my     evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if it     hadn’t been for having to rescue HIM, I could have gotten on an actual     lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he’s pretty much dead     now, and I’m well over a thousand years old, and who’s making my supper? I     need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it’s making my ears hurt. You kids     today, with your loud music. Why, when I was-hey! Don’t you walk away from     me, Mr. Snooty-Patootie! I’d turn you over my knee, if I had one.     I’ll beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here!     (Fade to black; roll credits; play annoying Celine Dion song.) The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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someone has way too much time on their hands – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.     (Scene 1)     KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn’t it?     KATE’S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you     asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain     he will amount to nothing.     KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our ’90s audience, because of     course Picasso later amounted to quite a bit, after this boat sank.     LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I’m Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have     seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me.     You are very pretty.     KATE: Thank you. So are you.     LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you, in fact. I am going to     put on my "brooding"  face now, to ensure that women will keep     coming back again and again to see this movie. Later, my     white shirt will be soaking wet.       KATE: While you’re doing     that, I will concentrate on standing here and looking pretty,     to keep the men in the audience interested until the boat     sinks and people start dying.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even     though you saved my fiancee’s life. I am going to sneer at     you and treat you like dirt because you’re poor, and then     I’ll probably be physically abusive to my fiancee, and then,     just to make sure the audience really hates me, and to make     sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps I’ll     throw an elderly person into the water.     AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at     least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours,     and plus, you’re trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so     therefore we hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is     coming between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even     though he is only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!)     * * *     (Scene 2)     LEONARDO: I’m glad we snuck away like this so that you could     cheat on your fiancee.     KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a     commitment to marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb     into the backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that     I am the heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience     forgive me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if     my fiance were to do the same thing to me.     AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo!     LEONARDO: I agree. First I would like to draw you, though, so     of course you will have to take off all your clothes.     KATE: But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be     at all successful in, say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not     stand for that sort of thing?     LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three     weeks the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theatre in     Provo will sell out.     NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is     exactly what happened.     KATE: All right, then. (sound of clothes hitting the floor)     * * *     (Scene 3)     FIRST MATE: Captain, we’re about to hit an iceberg.     CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (sound of drinking)     ICEBERG: (hits boat)     FIRST MATE: That can’t be good.     CAPTAIN: Bottoms up!     AUDIENCE: (silence)     FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools.     AUDIENCE: Baa! Moo! Where’s Leonardo?     * * *     (Scene 4)     LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking.     KATE: That is terrible.     LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more immoral-but-justified     behavior?     KATE: Certainly.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me, I-     AUDIENCE: Boo! Boo!     WEASELLY FIANCE: (aside) I’m getting the raw end of the deal     here.     (to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my morally-dubious-yet-somehow-     less-annoying-than-you personality, I am going     to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon be filling     with water, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe has been     mentioned previously.     LEONARDO: Why don’t you just shoot me?     WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn’t be able to escape     and save Kate from me. Of course, you’re going to die anyway-     AUDIENCE: Don’t spoil it for us! Boo!     LEONARDO: He’s right, though. I am doomed.     AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he’s doomed.     WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people.     * * *     (Scene 5)     150-YEAR-OLD KATE: And that’s when Leonardo rescued me from my     evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if it     hadn’t been for having to rescue HIM, I could have gotten on an actual     lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he’s pretty much dead     now, and I’m well over a thousand years old, and who’s making my supper? I     need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it’s making my ears hurt. You kids     today, with your loud music. Why, when I was-hey! Don’t you walk away from     me, Mr. Snooty-Patootie! I’d turn you over my knee, if I had one.     I’ll beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here!     (Fade to black; roll credits; play annoying Celine Dion song.) The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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someone has way too much time on their hands

"Someone" cuts and pastes in seconds. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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Hmmmmm…  Cheryl…  You never cease to amaze me with what you will come up with.  I did like your tutorial relative to the Google search application.  Never a dull moment with you around…  Now if we could only resurrect our resident Carnival basher Paul.  I do hope he is ok… Bill

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As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.

cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie. Might have been because we watched it with my mother (never a good thing as I hate what she likes, etc… lol) So I have considered giving it a second chance. If only because Billy Zane is one of my favorite actors. And I know what Leo is capable of acting wise. (The Beach, and Whats Eating Gilbert Grape are good examples of incredible acting) But I suppose we will see — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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I smell Oscar!

That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol. — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner couldn’t control himself and was heard through the quiet theatre as he gasped in exasperation "Graaaandma!" Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money. cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie. Might have been because we watched it with my mother (never a good thing as I hate what she likes, etc… lol) So I have considered giving it a second chance. If only because Billy Zane is one of my favorite actors. And I know what Leo is capable of acting wise. (The Beach, and Whats Eating Gilbert Grape are good examples of incredible acting) But I suppose we will see — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner couldn’t control himself and was heard through the quiet theatre as he gasped in exasperation "Graaaandma!" Mark

We were waiting for the great-granddaughter or whoever to come and dump her over and yell "Go get it!!"   Unbelievable!  And Les, I thought it was stupid, too. Chris

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Yes!  What the hell was she thinking??? Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We were waiting for the great-granddaughter or whoever to come and dump her over and yell "Go get it!!"   Unbelievable!

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Yes!  What the hell was she thinking???

Jeff! It was a movie!!! — Charles

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It was just one of those things!  I think she should have tried to save the Picassos from going down with the ship too. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  What the hell was she thinking??? Jeff! It was a movie!!!

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol.

This coming from an expert on buttholes. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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Hmmmmm…  Cheryl…  You never cease to amaze me with what you will come up with.  I did like your tutorial relative to the Google search application.  Never a dull moment with you around…

Dull is dull. And don’t call me Shirley. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie.

Fun special effects. The rest….ehhhhh. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner…….

Business or sexual? The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol. This coming from an expert on buttholes.

I hardly think I would qualify as an expert on anything. Using your logic, what does that make you an expert on? Replying to posts with only your sig? Ummm. Starting as much crap as you can? (Ok, so maybe *I* am an expert at that too lol) Oh oh! I know! With as much as you talk about anal sex, and homosexual habits, maybe you are an expert at that? Are you really a 15 year old boy fighting with his own sexuality? (I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask) wtf ever lol — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. This coming from an expert on buttholes. I hardly think I would qualify as an expert on anything.

As you wish. Using your logic, what does that make you an expert on?

A lot of things. Replying to posts with only your sig?

That apparently flies right by your rather "astute" Usenet knowledge. Ummm. Starting as much crap as you can? (Ok, so maybe *I* am an expert at that too lol)

Takes one to know one, takes one to know one. Oh oh! I know! With as much as you talk about anal sex, and homosexual habits, maybe you are an expert at that?

I am an expert in knowing that nothing that is going in my anus unless it is attached to a medical purpose. Are you really a 15 year old boy fighting with his own sexuality?

zzzzzzzzzz (I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask)

Leave their butts alone. Statutory offense. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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(I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask) Leave their butts alone. Statutory offense.

As Kid Rock says "If there’s grass on the field… play ball" lol Actually, according to the latest info site I have, the age in my state is only 13 for gay men and lesbians (which is disgusting! The age, not lesbianism lol)) and 18 for heterosexuals. It isn’t an "official site" But I have found them to be very accurate and up to date. Some of the ages for other countries are even worse To me, after growing up in Texas, I think the age should be 18 all the way around. http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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Actually, according to the latest info site I have, the age in my state is only 13 for gay men and lesbians (which is disgusting! The age, not lesbianism lol)) and 18 for heterosexuals. It isn’t an "official site" But I have found them to be very accurate and up to date. Some of the ages for other countries are even worse

I never knew the breadth of this, Did you notice that earlier consents are are mainly aimed at those who cannot get impregnated? The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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So I’m probably the only person on Earth who hasn’t watched "Titanic" yet.  Thanks for summing it up for me, CC. ….Now I don’t have bother sitting through —How many hours?    Of course, I had a pretty good idea of how things would turn out anyways.   Now let me see… Did Clifton Webb survive or not?   …Jon

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Hi Karen… That’s why I haven’t bothered watching the movie. There is no alien creature like in "The Abyss" to come to the rescue.  …You automatically know, just from hearing the title that things are going to turn out bad in the end.    …Jon

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Hi Karen… That’s why I haven’t bothered watching the movie. There is no alien creature like in "The Abyss" to come to the rescue.  …You automatically know, just from hearing the title that things are going to turn out bad in the end.    …Jon

yeah, but how often do we get to see Kate Winslets boobs? Oh wait… in every movie she does lol — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.     (Scene 1)     KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn’t it?     KATE’S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you     asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain     he will amount to nothing.     KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our ’90s audience, because of     course Picasso later amounted to quite a bit, after this boat sank.     LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I’m Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have     seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me.     You are very pretty.     KATE: Thank you. So are you.     LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you, in fact. I am going to     put on my "brooding"  face now, to ensure that women will keep     coming back again and again to see this movie. Later, my     white shirt will be soaking wet.       KATE: While you’re doing     that, I will concentrate on standing here and looking pretty,     to keep the men in the audience interested until the boat     sinks and people start dying.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even     though you saved my fiancee’s life. I am going to sneer at     you and treat you like dirt because you’re poor, and then     I’ll probably be physically abusive to my fiancee, and then,     just to make sure the audience really hates me, and to make     sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps I’ll     throw an elderly person into the water.     AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at     least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours,     and plus, you’re trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so     therefore we hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is     coming between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even     though he is only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!)     * * *     (Scene 2)     LEONARDO: I’m glad we snuck away like this so that you could     cheat on your fiancee.     KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a     commitment to marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb     into the backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that     I am the heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience     forgive me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if     my fiance were to do the same thing to me.     AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo!     LEONARDO: I agree. First I would like to draw you, though, so     of course you will have to take off all your clothes.     KATE: But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be     at all successful in, say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not     stand for that sort of thing?     LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three     weeks the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theatre in     Provo will sell out.     NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is     exactly what happened.     KATE: All right, then. (sound of clothes hitting the floor)     * * *     (Scene 3)     FIRST MATE: Captain, we’re about to hit an iceberg.     CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (sound of drinking)     ICEBERG: (hits boat)     FIRST MATE: That can’t be good.     CAPTAIN: Bottoms up!     AUDIENCE: (silence)     FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools.     AUDIENCE: Baa! Moo! Where’s Leonardo?     * * *     (Scene 4)     LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking.     KATE: That is terrible.     LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more immoral-but-justified     behavior?     KATE: Certainly.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me, I-     AUDIENCE: Boo! Boo!     WEASELLY FIANCE: (aside) I’m getting the raw end of the deal     here.     (to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my morally-dubious-yet-somehow-     less-annoying-than-you personality, I am going     to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon be filling     with water, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe has been     mentioned previously.     LEONARDO: Why don’t you just shoot me?     WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn’t be able to escape     and save Kate from me. Of course, you’re going to die anyway-     AUDIENCE: Don’t spoil it for us! Boo!     LEONARDO: He’s right, though. I am doomed.     AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he’s doomed.     WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people.     * * *     (Scene 5)     150-YEAR-OLD KATE: And that’s when Leonardo rescued me from my     evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if it     hadn’t been for having to rescue HIM, I could have gotten on an actual     lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he’s pretty much dead     now, and I’m well over a thousand years old, and who’s making my supper? I     need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it’s making my ears hurt. You kids     today, with your loud music. Why, when I was-hey! Don’t you walk away from     me, Mr. Snooty-Patootie! I’d turn you over my knee, if I had one.     I’ll beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here!     (Fade to black; roll credits; play annoying Celine Dion song.) The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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someone has way too much time on their hands – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.     (Scene 1)     KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn’t it?     KATE’S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you     asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain     he will amount to nothing.     KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our ’90s audience, because of     course Picasso later amounted to quite a bit, after this boat sank.     LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I’m Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have     seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me.     You are very pretty.     KATE: Thank you. So are you.     LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you, in fact. I am going to     put on my "brooding"  face now, to ensure that women will keep     coming back again and again to see this movie. Later, my     white shirt will be soaking wet.       KATE: While you’re doing     that, I will concentrate on standing here and looking pretty,     to keep the men in the audience interested until the boat     sinks and people start dying.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even     though you saved my fiancee’s life. I am going to sneer at     you and treat you like dirt because you’re poor, and then     I’ll probably be physically abusive to my fiancee, and then,     just to make sure the audience really hates me, and to make     sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps I’ll     throw an elderly person into the water.     AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at     least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours,     and plus, you’re trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so     therefore we hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is     coming between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even     though he is only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!)     * * *     (Scene 2)     LEONARDO: I’m glad we snuck away like this so that you could     cheat on your fiancee.     KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a     commitment to marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb     into the backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that     I am the heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience     forgive me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if     my fiance were to do the same thing to me.     AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo!     LEONARDO: I agree. First I would like to draw you, though, so     of course you will have to take off all your clothes.     KATE: But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be     at all successful in, say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not     stand for that sort of thing?     LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three     weeks the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theatre in     Provo will sell out.     NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is     exactly what happened.     KATE: All right, then. (sound of clothes hitting the floor)     * * *     (Scene 3)     FIRST MATE: Captain, we’re about to hit an iceberg.     CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (sound of drinking)     ICEBERG: (hits boat)     FIRST MATE: That can’t be good.     CAPTAIN: Bottoms up!     AUDIENCE: (silence)     FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools.     AUDIENCE: Baa! Moo! Where’s Leonardo?     * * *     (Scene 4)     LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking.     KATE: That is terrible.     LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more immoral-but-justified     behavior?     KATE: Certainly.     WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me, I-     AUDIENCE: Boo! Boo!     WEASELLY FIANCE: (aside) I’m getting the raw end of the deal     here.     (to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my morally-dubious-yet-somehow-     less-annoying-than-you personality, I am going     to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon be filling     with water, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe has been     mentioned previously.     LEONARDO: Why don’t you just shoot me?     WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn’t be able to escape     and save Kate from me. Of course, you’re going to die anyway-     AUDIENCE: Don’t spoil it for us! Boo!     LEONARDO: He’s right, though. I am doomed.     AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he’s doomed.     WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people.     * * *     (Scene 5)     150-YEAR-OLD KATE: And that’s when Leonardo rescued me from my     evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if it     hadn’t been for having to rescue HIM, I could have gotten on an actual     lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he’s pretty much dead     now, and I’m well over a thousand years old, and who’s making my supper? I     need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it’s making my ears hurt. You kids     today, with your loud music. Why, when I was-hey! Don’t you walk away from     me, Mr. Snooty-Patootie! I’d turn you over my knee, if I had one.     I’ll beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here!     (Fade to black; roll credits; play annoying Celine Dion song.) The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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someone has way too much time on their hands

"Someone" cuts and pastes in seconds. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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Hmmmmm…  Cheryl…  You never cease to amaze me with what you will come up with.  I did like your tutorial relative to the Google search application.  Never a dull moment with you around…  Now if we could only resurrect our resident Carnival basher Paul.  I do hope he is ok… Bill

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As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money.

cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie. Might have been because we watched it with my mother (never a good thing as I hate what she likes, etc… lol) So I have considered giving it a second chance. If only because Billy Zane is one of my favorite actors. And I know what Leo is capable of acting wise. (The Beach, and Whats Eating Gilbert Grape are good examples of incredible acting) But I suppose we will see — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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I smell Oscar!

That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol. — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner couldn’t control himself and was heard through the quiet theatre as he gasped in exasperation "Graaaandma!" Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a public service, then, I am offering my much-shortened screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the script for a shorter version of " Titanic." All I want in return is a lot of money. cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie. Might have been because we watched it with my mother (never a good thing as I hate what she likes, etc… lol) So I have considered giving it a second chance. If only because Billy Zane is one of my favorite actors. And I know what Leo is capable of acting wise. (The Beach, and Whats Eating Gilbert Grape are good examples of incredible acting) But I suppose we will see — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner couldn’t control himself and was heard through the quiet theatre as he gasped in exasperation "Graaaandma!" Mark

We were waiting for the great-granddaughter or whoever to come and dump her over and yell "Go get it!!"   Unbelievable!  And Les, I thought it was stupid, too. Chris

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Yes!  What the hell was she thinking??? Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We were waiting for the great-granddaughter or whoever to come and dump her over and yell "Go get it!!"   Unbelievable!

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Yes!  What the hell was she thinking???

Jeff! It was a movie!!! — Charles

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It was just one of those things!  I think she should have tried to save the Picassos from going down with the ship too. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes!  What the hell was she thinking??? Jeff! It was a movie!!!

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol.

This coming from an expert on buttholes. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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Hmmmmm…  Cheryl…  You never cease to amaze me with what you will come up with.  I did like your tutorial relative to the Google search application.  Never a dull moment with you around…

Dull is dull. And don’t call me Shirley. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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cute. I watched the movie all of once myself. About 30 minutes into it, all I could think was "Ok, SINK ALREADY!" lol. Needless to say, I am in the minority as someone who hated the movie.

Fun special effects. The rest….ehhhhh. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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When we saw it, in the final scene when the old lady dropped the giant blue diamond into the sea, my partner…….

Business or sexual? The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. And her name isn’t Oscar lol. This coming from an expert on buttholes.

I hardly think I would qualify as an expert on anything. Using your logic, what does that make you an expert on? Replying to posts with only your sig? Ummm. Starting as much crap as you can? (Ok, so maybe *I* am an expert at that too lol) Oh oh! I know! With as much as you talk about anal sex, and homosexual habits, maybe you are an expert at that? Are you really a 15 year old boy fighting with his own sexuality? (I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask) wtf ever lol — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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I smell Oscar! That’s not what you smell Karen. This coming from an expert on buttholes. I hardly think I would qualify as an expert on anything.

As you wish. Using your logic, what does that make you an expert on?

A lot of things. Replying to posts with only your sig?

That apparently flies right by your rather "astute" Usenet knowledge. Ummm. Starting as much crap as you can? (Ok, so maybe *I* am an expert at that too lol)

Takes one to know one, takes one to know one. Oh oh! I know! With as much as you talk about anal sex, and homosexual habits, maybe you are an expert at that?

I am an expert in knowing that nothing that is going in my anus unless it is attached to a medical purpose. Are you really a 15 year old boy fighting with his own sexuality?

zzzzzzzzzz (I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask)

Leave their butts alone. Statutory offense. The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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(I have ran into several 15 year old high school students that post a lot like you do, thats why I ask) Leave their butts alone. Statutory offense.

As Kid Rock says "If there’s grass on the field… play ball" lol Actually, according to the latest info site I have, the age in my state is only 13 for gay men and lesbians (which is disgusting! The age, not lesbianism lol)) and 18 for heterosexuals. It isn’t an "official site" But I have found them to be very accurate and up to date. Some of the ages for other countries are even worse To me, after growing up in Texas, I think the age should be 18 all the way around. http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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Actually, according to the latest info site I have, the age in my state is only 13 for gay men and lesbians (which is disgusting! The age, not lesbianism lol)) and 18 for heterosexuals. It isn’t an "official site" But I have found them to be very accurate and up to date. Some of the ages for other countries are even worse

I never knew the breadth of this, Did you notice that earlier consents are are mainly aimed at those who cannot get impregnated? The Not So Fine Art Of Google http://makeashorterlink.com/?E29A321E6

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So I’m probably the only person on Earth who hasn’t watched "Titanic" yet.  Thanks for summing it up for me, CC. ….Now I don’t have bother sitting through —How many hours?    Of course, I had a pretty good idea of how things would turn out anyways.   Now let me see… Did Clifton Webb survive or not?   …Jon

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Hi Karen… That’s why I haven’t bothered watching the movie. There is no alien creature like in "The Abyss" to come to the rescue.  …You automatically know, just from hearing the title that things are going to turn out bad in the end.    …Jon

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Hi Karen… That’s why I haven’t bothered watching the movie. There is no alien creature like in "The Abyss" to come to the rescue.  …You automatically know, just from hearing the title that things are going to turn out bad in the end.    …Jon

yeah, but how often do we get to see Kate Winslets boobs? Oh wait… in every movie she does lol — LES! To email me privately, remove your lips from my ass! "It takes the Village People to raise a child. Sometimes you need a cowboy, sometimes you need a cop, and sometimes you need a big gay Indian." – Unknown (possibly Dharma & Greg)

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I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it? And lastly, how difficult are they to transport? Would it fit into a car? Thanks

Is this what happens when you get tired of playing an electric fretless? Pt

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I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it? And lastly, how difficult are they to transport? Would it fit into a car? Thanks

My upright teacher says yes to a bow. I had a 3/4 in a VW bug. Neal Neal Pollack The Bad Habit Allstars http://www.badhabitallstars.com Carbondale, CO, USA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it? And lastly, how difficult are they to transport? Would it fit into a car? Thanks Is this what happens when you get tired of playing an electric fretless? Pt

Yup.  G.A.S. knows no limits. —   O /()   ^^

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I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it?

Not unlike the people who are starting on electric, the common answer for beginning upright seems to be "find a teacher first." She/He can help you find a bass, and answer the bow question too. But… what would I know about that. —   O< "Bass owner rob." /()   ^^

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Rob’s right.  Find someone who is "in the know" to go with you when you shop for an upright.  A bow is essential, if nothing else, for working on your intonation and vibrato.  Plucked notes just don’t last long enough…    _ ‘ ):    Ted Partin  /     http://members.aol.com/dblbassted

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My upright teacher says yes to a bow.

Would she say yes to anyone who bows to her, or just you? Doesn’t sound that upright in either case … I had a 3/4 in a VW bug.

You Americans and your cars! —

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(Neil wrote): I had a 3/4 in a VW bug.

(J.F. responded): You Americans and your cars!

German car… IME you just have to make sure you push the bass all the way back so you don’t break the windshield like I did in a VW. And no sudden stops. Ah, the bug– on a different gig, held my Jazz, B15, and a set of Ludwigs and drummer and me. Snug. Cheap. –TP

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My upright teacher says yes to a bow. Would she say yes to anyone who bows to her, or just you? Doesn’t sound that upright in either case …

My upright teacher is a really large "him", not a "her". I’m not sure he can bow. Aside from the sound possibilities, my understanding is that bowing really helps to perfect your left hand, because it reveals any inconsistencies in finger pressure and intonation on the long sustained notes. I had a 3/4 in a VW bug. You Americans and your cars!

It was a great little car ‘62-1/2 with the soft, slide back sunroof. Neal Pollack The Bad Habit Allstars http://www.badhabitallstars.com Carbondale, CO, USA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (Neil wrote): I had a 3/4 in a VW bug. (J.F. responded): You Americans and your cars! German car… IME you just have to make sure you push the bass all the way back so you don’t break the windshield like I did in a VW. And no sudden stops. Ah, the bug– on a different gig, held my Jazz, B15, and a set of Ludwigs and drummer and me. Snug. Cheap. –TP

I had a B-15 too and know what a beast it is to even get into a normal sized car. I can’t imagine how you wrestled it into a bug. Did you end up putting everything inside or did you have a roof rack as well? I could see the B-15 on the front seat, but the drums and the drummer? C’mon share. How’d you do it? Neal Neal Pollack The Bad Habit Allstars http://www.badhabitallstars.com Carbondale, CO, USA

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I had a B-15 too and know what a beast it is to even get into a normal sized car. I can’t imagine how you wrestled it into a bug. Did you end up putting everything inside or did you have a roof rack as well? I could see the B-15 on the front seat, but the drums and the drummer? C’mon share. How’d you do it?

Youth. Experimentation. Two people well under 6′ tall. One slender. "Small" blue diamond B15, did have an SRO in for weight enhancement and tone. I don’t remember the exact placements after 30 years. Pretty sure the back seat was taken out, or at least one half of it, had to be careful of the battery. The car was *full*, and (foggy memory) the key was finding one or two things that fit in the trunk with the spare. No roof rack. I think my Jazz in hard case fit over everything, front to back, and I might have had a small tom in my lap, another underfoot. "You do what you gotta do," we were rehearsing in someone’s house where stuff had to be picked up after rehearsal. I had a ‘65 Mustang that wouldn’t take the whole load, so we used the VW. Shoulda took a picture. –TP

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my understanding is that bowing really helps to perfect your left hand, because it reveals any inconsistencies in finger pressure and intonation on the long sustained notes.

That sounds more than likely. Unfortunately uprights to me are lovely things I see in music shops (and online and on stage) and are probably going to stay that way for the forseeable future. sigh<< —

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my understanding is that bowing really helps to perfect your left hand, because it reveals any inconsistencies in finger pressure and intonation on the long sustained notes. That sounds more than likely. Unfortunately uprights to me are lovely things I see in music shops (and online and on stage) and are probably going to stay that way for the forseeable future. sigh<<

If you want one badly enough, one will make itself available. I was scouting eBay for a couple of months until I found my Aria EUB. It was a little stretch to pay for it, but it worked out. Nothing beats the sound of those big fat long open strings. Neal Neal Pollack The Bad Habit Allstars http://www.badhabitallstars.com Carbondale, CO, USA

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Unfortunately uprights to me are lovely things I see in music shops (and online and on stage) and are probably going to stay that way for the forseeable future.

(N. P. replied): If you want one badly enough, one will make itself available. I was scouting eBay for a couple of months until I found my Aria EUB. It was a little stretch to pay for it, but it worked out. Nothing beats the sound of those big fat long open strings.

Well yeah, try to find some bluegrassers or string band players, maybe someone has an upright bass they want to part with. I got the old (1939) Kay I still have from someone who found it broken in a university classroom stairway, had and fortune playing drums. Ask around…  –TP

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(Is mount olympus really in Malta?) Well yeah, try to find some bluegrassers or string band players, maybe someone has an upright bass they want to part with.

It’s worth a try, but then I’d somehow have to find money for lessons. I’m not earning any, so it might be tricky. I think it’d have to be an EUB, though ’cause there’s not much spare space here. —

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(Is mount olympus really in Malta?)

Naw, it’s in Carbondale CO, but I’m starting to get pro-active about my spam. Well yeah, try to find some bluegrassers or string band players, maybe someone has an upright bass they want to part with. It’s worth a try, but then I’d somehow have to find money for lessons. I’m not earning any, so it might be tricky. I think it’d have to be an EUB, though ’cause there’s not much spare space here.

– Neal Pollack The Bad Habit Allstars http://www.badhabitallstars.com Carbondale, CO, USA

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I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model?

For a first bass with decent reviews, go here: www.urbbob.com. Another good resource is the upright bass forum at www.talkbass.com. Ted answered your question on a bow. Glenn D.

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I am fortunate enough to have a loaner. I have a friend who was into blue grass. He pretty much gave up bass and now plays guitar. I have been playing bass since I was twelve. I am forty-&*(*(  now. I played stand up in high and junior high orchestra. I was sold on them but could never afford one. The love affair never ended. I only wish I had played a stand up my whole bass career. I ended up with one of those stupid 64 Hofner’s and a hand full of other wood. Learn to read and use the bow. I just got through going through a frustrating session playing "The Blue Danube". It sounds easy but it aint. As far as transportation, I know the loaners I borrowed from my school would fit in the trunk of my mom’s 62 Ford Falcon. We needed to put a red flag on Sincerely, Jesse – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it? And lastly, how difficult are they to transport? Would it fit into a car? Thanks — George www.underwoodunsigned.co.uk

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I’ve been playing electric bass for the past 10 years, and quite fancy the idea of an upright bass. Firstly, can anyone recommend any good brands or model? Secondly, would it be worthwhile buying a bow with it? And lastly, how difficult are they to transport? Would it fit into a car? Thanks — George www.underwoodunsigned.co.uk

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Anyone know where I might find some tolex for a ‘61 Ampeg J-12 Jet? It isn’t the blue diamond stuff that most places are selling. Thanks, J. H.

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Anyone know where I might find some tolex for a ‘61 Ampeg J-12 Jet? It isn’t the blue diamond stuff that most places are selling. Thanks, J. H.

I think they called that pattern "Random Navy Flair," or something like that.  I think they used that pattern for the early 60s before going to the blue diamond stuff.  I don’t find any reference to Random Navy Flair on internet though.  I’ll try to remember to check out my copy of the Ampeg book when I get home tonight.   -Scott McKnight

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http://fliptops.com/CLOTHTOLEX.html Not sure if they have exactly what you want, but they have Ampeg tolex. — Ken Empson Peculiar Sound Studio http://www.cdinc.net/~eriador http://samhillband.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know where I might find some tolex for a ‘61 Ampeg J-12 Jet? It isn’t the blue diamond stuff that most places are selling. Thanks, J. H.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know where I might find some tolex for a ‘61 Ampeg J-12 Jet? It isn’t the blue diamond stuff that most places are selling. Thanks, J. H. I think they called that pattern "Random Navy Flair," or something like that.  I think they used that pattern for the early 60s before going to the blue diamond stuff.  I don’t find any reference to Random Navy Flair on internet though.  I’ll try to remember to check out my copy of the Ampeg book when I get home tonight. -Scott McKnight

That’s about right Scott, but it’s Navy Random Flair. It’s the silver speckeled blue vinyl material from ‘58-’62. As far as buying it, I don’t recall seeing it for sale anywhere, but if anyone would know where to find it, it would be Greg Hopkins: http://vintage-amp.com/ He literally wrote the book on Ampeg. His phone number and email are on the site. John King

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know where I might find some tolex for a ‘61 Ampeg J-12 Jet? It isn’t the blue diamond stuff that most places are selling. Thanks, J. H. I think they called that pattern "Random Navy Flair," or something like that.  I think they used that pattern for the early 60s before going to the blue diamond stuff.  I don’t find any reference to Random Navy Flair on internet though.  I’ll try to remember to check out my copy of the Ampeg book when I get home tonight. -Scott McKnight That’s about right Scott, but it’s Navy Random Flair. It’s the silver speckeled blue vinyl material from ‘58-’62. As far as buying it, I don’t recall seeing it for sale anywhere, but if anyone would know where to find it, it would be Greg Hopkins: http://vintage-amp.com/ He literally wrote the book on Ampeg. His phone number and email are on the site. John King

Just thought I’d add, unless almost all if the covering is gone, or stained beyond recognition, an amp of that age is almost always worth more in the original condition. Even if it’s very ratty looking. John

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I think they called that pattern "Random Navy Flair," or something like that. That’s about right Scott, but it’s Navy Random Flair.

No wait, it’s,  umm "Randy Navel Flame"…  err, uhh, "Radon Flannel Nair"…   no…  "Gravy Flavored Hair"… Awww hell. -Scott

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  Just thought I’d add, unless almost all if the covering is gone, or stained beyond recognition, an amp of that age is almost always worth more in the original condition. Even if it’s very ratty looking. John

I thought about that. It’s missing about 2-3" up from the bottom on both sides, a lot of bare wood showing. I’m going to have to replace most of the electronics except for the transformers and maybe a couple of the pots, someone did a lot of "tinkering" inside and the volume pot is seized up. I had thought about giving it a makeover if I could find the right tolex since I had to redo the insides too but If I can’t find it, I’ll probably reglue what is loose and leave it as is. Thanks for the info on Greg Hopkins. I’ll try there. Thanks, J. H.

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I think they called that pattern "Random Navy Flair," or something like that. That’s about right Scott, but it’s Navy Random Flair. No wait, it’s,  umm "Randy Navel Flame"…  err, uhh, "Radon Flannel Nair"…   no…  "Gravy Flavored Hair"… Awww hell. -Scott

Did you mean Ramdal Nandy Flavel? ;=] John

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I didn’t think progressive MS everdid go into remission, unfortunately. Seems to me, bit of lateral thinking here and may be wildly off target, that "boosting the immune system" is probably going to make this guy worse ??  I thought that these treatments like avonex moderated or smacked up the immune system hoping to break the bit of it that caused MS ? It’s a bit of a problem, since when people become inactive, give up work and become more dormant, their immune system becomes able to eat the myelin more than ever ?  I don’t know an answer, but anyone have any views on what I’m hypothesising here ?? Roarke. "Reno Native 38" <renonativ…@aol.com

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can find because vitamins are rather expensive: B-12 = 1000 mg C = 1000 mg A&D = 1000 mg Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc = is combined in a bottle and contains 333 of

calcium,

33 of magnesium and only 5mg of Zinc Extra Zinc = 100 mg Fish Oil – 1000 mg DHEA = 50 mg I was told by Bill that DHEA is not a vitamin but a hormone.  From all

I’ve

read about it, it supplements the body when the natural DHEA is

lost/lowered in

persons with MS and other same type diseases. Is there nothing that can be done to help boost his immune system? I know that the Zinc enhances the immune system and that’s the reason I

take

100mg.  I’m not aware of anyone with progressive MS going into remission. Maybe others here can tell you if they know about it. I hope this helps. Monica

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Roarke wrote:

I didn’t think progressive MS everdid go into remission, unfortunately.

I think you are correct here.

Seems to me, bit of lateral thinking here and may be wildly off target, that "boosting the immune system" is probably going to make this guy worse ??

I honestly don’t know the answer.  I can only tell you that a Homeopathic M.D. said I should try and now, I’ve been taking this stuff for 4 years and it hasn’t made me worse.  I think it depends on how our body responds to things we try.  

It’s a bit of a problem, since when people become inactive, give up work and become more dormant, their immune system becomes able to eat the myelin more

than ever ?  I don’t know an answer, but anyone have any views on what I’m

hypothesising here ??

I don’t know the answer either, but I can say that I’ve been off work for almost 5 years now, although I do everything I can to exercize in the water.  I can only do it for about 10 to 15 minutes though and I can’t do it everyday because I get fatigued rather quickly.  Just like driving the stupid car.  Sure is strange that when I drive for more than 15 minutes, the muscles in my legs have no power, no control, and no muscle tone.  I don’t get that part. Monica

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I have Progressive MS x 1 year/  talked to a Dr. this morning who said she has seen great progress with a set of vitamins/ helps Triglycerides?  Has anyone here heard of any success with Vitamin therapy?  Thanks

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On 3/20/01 kwjags…@aol.com  (Kwjagsfan) wrote:

I have Progressive MS x 1 year/  talked to a Dr. this morning who said she has seen great progress with a set of vitamins/ helps Triglycerides?  Has anyone

here heard of any success with Vitamin therapy?  Thanks

I was dx with Progressive MS in 1996.  I take vitamin B-12, C, D, Calcium Magnesium Zinc, Fish Oil and DHEA.  I’ve heard that one of the main ingredients for a MS diet is a lot of fish.  The DHEA is the most important one for me. Monica "To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might be the world."

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There seems to be a lot on the subject: Try………. http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=Triglycerides+MULTIPLE+SCLEROSIS&… good luck uncle willie On 20 Mar 2001 17:01:28 GMT, kwjags…@aol.com (Kwjagsfan) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

I have Progressive MS x 1 year/  talked to a Dr. this morning who said she has seen great progress with a set of vitamins/ helps Triglycerides?  Has anyone here heard of any success with Vitamin therapy?  Thanks

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I have MS and I take a huge amount of supplements (in excess of 100 per day). I also eat fish three times per day. It helps. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kwjagsfan wrote:

I have Progressive MS x 1 year/  talked to a Dr. this morning who said she has seen great progress with a set of vitamins/ helps Triglycerides?  Has anyone here heard of any success with Vitamin therapy?  Thanks

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, renonativ…@aol.com

(Reno Native 38) writes:

I was dx with Progressive MS in 1996.  I take vitamin B-12, C, D, Calcium Magnesium Zinc, Fish Oil and DHEA.  I’ve heard that one of the main ingredients for a MS diet is a lot of fish.  The DHEA is the most important one for me.

I thougt DHEA was not supposed to be used in people with autoimmune problems, specifically ms. What does it do for you? Kathi

Response:

Hi Kathi: Sorry it took me so long to answer your question regarding the DHEA.  I’ve not been well, but I’m finally getting over this nasty flu. I think the DHEA gives me more strength throughout the day.  I’ve noticed that when I skip a day, I’m fighting my legs to move because they seem to weigh 100lbs each.

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On 25 Mar 2001 16:50:15 GMT, renonativ…@aol.com (Reno Native 38) wrote:

Hi Kathi: Sorry it took me so long to answer your question regarding the DHEA.  I’ve not been well, but I’m finally getting over this nasty flu. I think the DHEA gives me more strength throughout the day.  I’ve noticed that when I skip a day, I’m fighting my legs to move because they seem to weigh 100lbs each.

Isn’t there a separate type for women?  (prob costs more too…grrrr) Eliz. _____ Those are my principles. If you don’t like them, I have others.

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My first doctor to me that vitamins wouldn`t help.So i didn`t bother trying any.

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Dear Eliz, The female counterpart to DHEA is pregnenolone.  DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, and, as such, may have the side effects of giving masculine qualities.  Pregnenolone is similar to DHEA without the possible masculinizing qualities. I take DHEA daily and the effect on my energy is noticeable. Hope this helps. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Eliz." wrote:

On 25 Mar 2001 16:50:15 GMT, renonativ…@aol.com (Reno Native 38) wrote: Hi Kathi: Sorry it took me so long to answer your question regarding the DHEA.  I’ve not been well, but I’m finally getting over this nasty flu. I think the DHEA gives me more strength throughout the day.  I’ve noticed that when I skip a day, I’m fighting my legs to move because they seem to weigh 100lbs each. Isn’t there a separate type for women?  (prob costs more too…grrrr) Eliz. _____ Those are my principles. If you don’t like them, I have others.

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cyre…@aol.com wrote:

How many mgs of the following vitamins are you taking?  I’d like to suggest he

try this, and make sure he’s taking enough for it to make a difference.  Also — any

specific brand names that are better than others?  

Hello Cyrenka, I’m sorry to hear about your progressing so fast.  I know that I went from walking normal, to using a cane, to a walker and then the wheelchair in less than 3 months.  So I honestly know how hard it can be to cope with this, not just for your brother, but also for you.  My family had a rough time with me progresing so fast, and didn’t handle it as well as I did.   I take the following vitamins every day and usually buy the cheapest brand I can find because vitamins are rather expensive: B-12 = 1000 mg C = 1000 mg A&D = 1000 mg Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc = is combined in a bottle and contains 333 of calcium, 33 of magnesium and only 5mg of Zinc Extra Zinc = 100 mg Fish Oil – 1000 mg DHEA = 50 mg I was told by Bill that DHEA is not a vitamin but a hormone.  From all I’ve read about it, it supplements the body when the natural DHEA is lost/lowered in persons with MS and other same type diseases.  

Is there nothing that can be done to help boost his immune system?

I know that the Zinc enhances the immune system and that’s the reason I take 100mg.  I’m not aware of anyone with progressive MS going into remission. Maybe others here can tell you if they know about it. I hope this helps. Monica

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Thanks Bill, that’s what I concluded as well. Monica

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Hi Monica (and everyone): I’ve been reading this group for a couple of weeks now because my brother was diagnosed last year with progressive MS, and it is progressing frighteningly fast.  Interested in the vitamins you mentioned, since my brother’s neurologist has not even mentioned vitamins as something that might help.  How many mgs of the following vitamins are you taking?  I’d like to suggest he try this, and make sure he’s taking enough for it to make a difference.  Also — any specific brand names that are better than others?  

I was dx with Progressive MS in 1996.  I take vitamin B-12, C, D, Calcium Magnesium Zinc, Fish Oil and DHEA.  I’ve heard that one of the main ingredients for a MS diet is a lot of fish.  The DHEA is the most important

one for

me.

Thanks for any help on this — and BTW, one more question that my brother seems unclear about.  With progressive MS, is there a chance of remission?  He is on Avonex, which has not been helping a great deal.  Doctor says a great improvement cannot be expected, since Avonex works best to help sustain remission, but he is not in remission.  Is there nothing that can be done to help boost his immune system? Cyrenka www.blue-diamond-dance.com the adult ballet, adult dance student website

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Dear Eliz, Sorry for the multiple postings.  I was having computer trouble. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Eliz." wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:01:10 -0600, Bill Timmerman <timme…@brittonsd.com wrote: Dear Eliz, The female counterpart to DHEA is pregnenolone.  DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, and, as such, may have the side effects of giving masculine qualities.  Pregnenolone is similar to DHEA without the possible masculinizing qualities. I take DHEA daily and the effect on my energy is noticeable. Hope this helps. Bill Yes, thanks.  I think I’ve got it now ) Eliz. _____ Show me one Microsoft innovation and I’ll eat my Red Hat.

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On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:01:10 -0600, Bill Timmerman <timme…@brittonsd.com

wrote: Dear Eliz, The female counterpart to DHEA is pregnenolone.  DHEA is a precursor to testosterone, and, as such, may have the side effects of giving masculine qualities.  Pregnenolone is similar to DHEA without the possible masculinizing qualities. I take DHEA daily and the effect on my energy is noticeable. Hope this helps. Bill

Yes, thanks.  I think I’ve got it now ) Eliz. _____ Show me one Microsoft innovation and I’ll eat my Red Hat.

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Hi Bill, I had no idea I was taking a masculine vitamin.  That strirkes me as very funny.  I’ve been taking DHEA for the past 3 years.  I don’t it’s affected my femininity..:) Maybe I should search for unwanted chest hairs…lol  just kidding.  Any idea what kind of side effects it could be producing and I’m just not aware? Thanks. Monica

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Maybe I should search for unwanted chest hairs…

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LOL Steve!!!  Maybe we’ll find them after all. Monica "To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might be the world."

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Dear Monica, If you haven’t had any negative side effects for 3 years, then you will probably be devoid of any in the future.  Men who have prostate enlargement or urinary difficulties because of prostate trouble are sometimes warned not to take anything that may stimulate the prostate, like testosterone. I’m only guessing, but I would think that with a name like like Monica, your chance of the above happening would be limited, indeed. DHEA is not a vitamin, but a hormone.  It stimulates the adrenal gland – thus part of its energy boosting qualities.  Although testosterone is mostly a male hormone, women also have it in smaller quantities.  It can affect libido, and can affect aggressiveness and temperament.  How much, and which one of these traits is best for you, is your choice. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Reno Native 38 wrote:

Hi Bill, I had no idea I was taking a masculine vitamin.  That strirkes me as very funny.  I’ve been taking DHEA for the past 3 years.  I don’t it’s affected my femininity..:) Maybe I should search for unwanted chest hairs…lol  just kidding.  Any idea what kind of side effects it could be producing and I’m just not aware? Thanks. Monica

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Erica My supplement program is NOT an alternative to REAL medical treatment. It is designed to be additive and complementary to the good things that Interferon beta does. i.e. Suppress TNFa, Il-12,  MMP9s, MMP3, Gamma Interferon and are antiviral. I add in stuff that is neuroprotective and maintains Blood Brain Barrier BBB. I have RR MS and want to prevent loss of mobility and advancement to the progressive stage of the disease. Calcium supplementation is a good idea especially if you take extra magnesium and Vit D supplements. In fact I have added some Coral Calcium 1000mg to my program. I found a couple a bottles in my CVS pharmacy and just added it this week to my program. I do not believe that HGH is safe. Most of that h-pathetic version of this stuff is a sham. Avonex has minimal side effects but needs supplementation in my opinion. Taking larger amounts of INF Beta would greatly increase risks of long term side effects. I feel that the Rebif folks will prove my point in time. It is all a matter of costs, lifestyle, personal risk assessment and personal preference. I have a logic to my madness. Jack N Dalton Ericam630 <ericam…@aol.com

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Jack – why in the world do you take Avonex?  I only take drugs cause I’m

on a

disability pension and I don’t want to arouse (sp) suspicion. I just started taking coral calcium and hgh physicans blend.  I walk like

a

dream.  should have started them separately to figure out which is

responsible.

 but as ususal did not. personally I would try to get out of taking an interforn drug as much as I could.  Life’s too short.  I see you check the nutrition newsgroups as I

do.

Erica

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On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 03:44:31 GMT, John <jvanV…@worldnet.att.net

wrote in

alt.support.mult-sclerosis:

The only known side effects is they make your pee bright yellow.   Honest!

I think that is the Vitamin B. — From: doe (ironjust…@aol.comdoe) Newsgroup: Sci.med  Date: 2002-10-13 18:14:20 PST [snip] That would make you even more clueless than me .. or can’t you understand that

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Jack – why in the world do you take Avonex?  I only take drugs cause I’m on a disability pension and I don’t want to arouse (sp) suspicion.   I just started taking coral calcium and hgh physicans blend.  I walk like a dream.  should have started them separately to figure out which is responsible.  but as ususal did not. personally I would try to get out of taking an interforn drug as much as I could.  Life’s too short.  I see you check the nutrition newsgroups as I do. Erica

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You do realize that your body naturally produces almost as much HGH in a day as you’ll find in a whole month’s supply of "Physician’s Blend", right? What *is* Physician’s Blend, actually? Take 1 average dose (3mg… costs about $30) of Eli Lilly "Humatrope"  - that’s where they get the stuff from, cause no one else in the world is allowed to make it – and dilute it in 3.2 litres of sterile water (cost about $1).   Divide this up into individual a hundred and seven 30 ml spray bottles (cost about $0.30 each, or $32.10), label and package them (cost about $0.10 each, or $10.70) and sell them each for $67 each (at least that’s what SmartBodyZ charges.) So… they spend $73.80 on supplies, and sell the result for $7169.00 Profit: just a little short ot 10,000% Cute scam.   I hope you’re richer than you are smart. ((U))   M "Ericam630" <ericam…@aol.com

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Jack – why in the world do you take Avonex?  I only take drugs cause I’m

on a

disability pension and I don’t want to arouse (sp) suspicion. I just started taking coral calcium and hgh physicans blend.  I walk like

a

dream.  should have started them separately to figure out which is

responsible.

 but as ususal did not. personally I would try to get out of taking an interforn drug as much as I could.  Life’s too short.  I see you check the nutrition newsgroups as I

do.

Erica

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:56:11 -0400, "Gaylan" <gay…@attcanada.net

wrote in

alt.support.mult-sclerosis:

Jim, you said you take a good multi-vitamin, and so do I.  But how do we know which of the many labels really are *good*?

Largely we must trust the manufacturer.  Then it is a case of checking the number and quantity of the vitamins and minerals in each tablet and compare each to recommended daily quantities. — From: doe (ironjust…@aol.comdoe) Newsgroup: Sci.med  Date: 2002-10-13 18:14:20 PST [snip] That would make you even more clueless than me .. or can’t you understand that

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We use Schiff brand Vegetarian Multiple Vitamin.  These have the least amount of weird stuff in them.  They are the only vitamins that I have ever taken that actually make me feel better after two or three days.  Denise has been taking them for years.  She also takes vitamin C. The only known side effects is they make your pee bright yellow.   Honest! Denise the artist John the houseboy

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Below is my standard response on benefits of supplements for MS. This is my program for me. I suggest you checkout each item. Jack n Dalton These supplements, vitamins and herbs have proven benefits. Research these yourself or get your friends to help. There are a wide variety of supplements that can be beneficial to one with MS. Some of the "facts" are themselves "imperfect". A sign of maturity is making good decisions with incomplete and/or imperfect information. It is a matter of preference, lifestyle, costs and personal risk assessment. I have a good deal of info as to why and in some cases how some of these things help. Please feel free to ask. You will not be taking all the things that are good. Likewise you will probably end up taking some things at some time that are on the list of things that could be harmful. I have extracted my choices from a previous email and it appears below. I can provide specific info/abstracts on most of these supplements if you request them by name. It is a bit too massive to try and to send them all at once. These are  supplemental, secondary things that can help control MS. I have many abstracts that are the basis for my beliefs in these things. It is a real shame that no drug company will pay the 4 to 10  million dollars necessary to evaluate many of these approaches because there simply is no "payback" for them(drug companies). That is why there are only small pilot studies that indicate that this or that COULD help and the further BIG studies SHOULD be done. 1. The number one rule is "do no harm".  I have researched all the supplements I am currently taking and feel confident that they are not harmful. I have eliminated many things because they can overstimulate the immune system. For example I have very recently eliminated Tofu/ soy produces because I have found they do damage to the brain. Miso is Ok because of the way it is processed. 2. The number two rule is "be a bad host to diseases of all kinds". Since MS is an autoimmune disease getting sick (either bacterial or virus) will result in a heightened immune system response that could cause a MS exacerbation. This is why you should get the flu shot unless you are currently having an active relapse. The flu shot will cause two to three days of heightened immune levels but if you get the real flu you could have two or three weeks of VERY HIGH immune levels which really increases the chances for a major MS relapse. 3. Third rule is do not overstimulate your immune system to produce more Gamma Interferon. Generally you should avoid anything that increases Gamma Interferon, or TNFa  some other nasty T-cell things. Conversely you should take those supplements that reduce these things and do no harm. 4. Fourthly make sure you get a good supply of essential fatty acids. Since Myelin is  mostly a fatty insulating substance that insulates the nerves you want to have a good supply of a "raw" materials to aide production and repair of myelin. Taking too much of some of them(Omega-6) can encourage inflammation which is part of the destructive process that destroys myelin. I find that GNC has a blue bottle of stuff called "Multi-Oil" which contains some fish body oil, flax seed oil, wheat germ oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil and black currant oil that seems to cover all bases. I also take 2000 Mg of Concentrate Fish Oil. The fish oil is an Omega-3 oil that fights inflammation among other things. I also take two softgels of Vitamin D3 (Solgar) which is from fish liver oil. 5. Block the mechanism of destruction (ROS/NOS) by taking a wide variety of antioxidants and other things that suppress inflammation substances like TNFa, Gamma Interferon and MMP-9, MMP-3 production. 6. Prevent viruses from becoming active by taking meds/supplements to suppress viral reproduction. 7. There is some good evidence and theory  that diet can help. However it can take up to 4 years to be effective by DIET ALONE. If you take the right SUPPLEMENTS you can get some benefit almost immediately. I would NOT RECOMMEND a radical diet. Eating a low saturated fat diet with a lot of berries and fruit.  A low sugar diet would help because sugar blocks the good effects of antioxidants. Starches like potatoes / rice and pasta should also be kept to a minimum. I find that a little dark chocolate is OK because it has some good flavinoids. Milk chocolate has almost none of them. What makes all this work is that, although the primary cause of MS is still unknown, the mechanism by which the destructive process operates is well known. I still refer to my Sept 1993 issue of SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, Titled "LIFE, DEATH AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM" One article in it covers "How Multiple Sclerosis Progresses". In summary I would say that you could take the following supplements. In addition to one Centrum Silver Multi-vitamin I take the following per day(almost) Vitamin D3(cholecalciferol)  a minimum of 2,000 IU  max 3,000 IU Brand SOLGAR from fish liver oil. Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg softgells two in AM two PM R-Alpha Lipoic Acid  150 Mg (the good stuff)(human stuff 100%) Selenium 100 mg (yeast free) l-Selenomethionine Grape seed extract 200 Mg in AM 50 mg PM Bilberry Concentrated (1000mg bilberry fruits) Pycnogenol(pine bark extract) 50 mg  one am one pm B-12 Methylcobalamin 5 mg one am B-12 Cyanocobalamin 1000 mcg pm Balanced B-50 (Extra 50Mg of B vitamins) Chelated Magnesium (Magnesium Citrate) 400 mg CQ-10 120 mg AM 50 mg PM Idebenone 45 mg one am one pm Vinpocetine 5 mg  four tablets between 6 am and 6 pm Vit C 500 mg plus Quercetin 500 mg Vit C 1000 Ester-C time released with Citris Bioflavoniods Vit C 500 Ester-C  with Lemon Bioflavoniods Extra Vit E Gamma E(210 mg) tocopherol/tocotrienols Extra Vit E Alpha-d 200 mg Folic Acid  400 mcg Niacinamide 100 mg Lycopene 15 mg Astaxanthin 4 mg Lutein  20 mg L-theanine  200 mg capsules  one in am one in pm NAC N-Acetyl-L-Ctsteine 600 Mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine 500 Mg Multi-oil (mix of flax, borage, fish, black current, evening primrose oils) GNC brand 3 softgels Or Atkins – Essential Oils – 2 Softgels Fish Oil Concentrate 2000 mg lecithin 1200 mg PS-100 Phosphatidyl Serine Complex 500 Mg DHA – neuromins(docosahexaenoic acid) 200 mg one daily Super Green Tea Extract 350 mg Green Tea Powder with 122.5 EGCG -Epigallocatechin gallete 210  mg other polyphenols  one am one pm plus 3 cups green tea during day. I also take 500 mg of Valtrex which is an antiviral drug My other medications of Lipitor 10 mg for high cholesterol And Celebrex also help my MS by greatly lowering MMP-9 and TNFa production. I also found some GNC Elderberry Extract and GNC Black Cherry extract made from dried puree of fruit. The flavonoids from these fruits are especially good. I would suggest you slowly start taking some of these supplements. I would gradually build up to the higher dose in about a two week period of time. This is because you do not want your body to become alarmed by the sudden presence of these things. Some of these supplements have a synergistic effect with other supplements. I hope you will do your own search on http://www.google.com and http://www.pubmed.gov on each item. Your should check the GROUPS box to see what other user group folks say about these supplements. You should consider start taking the Vit D3, B-12, Grape Seed , Fish, Essential Fatty Oils, Alpha Lipoic Acid and Green Tea, Lipitor, CQ-10, Vinpocetine as soon as possible. I assume you takes a multi-vitamin daily. Jack N Dalton P.S Of course I also take Avonex. I have a supply of Zanaflex and Neurontin to take as needed. I also take ENADA(NADH) 5 Mg as needed(almost daily)for energy. Jeff <jnewmans…@aps-botal.com

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Hello all. My question is this: I know Cod Liver Oil is top notch but what other kinds of vitamins do people take that you can recommend? And, to

that

Iron man guy, I have you so killfiled in all your forms so don’t even

bother

responding because I won’t see it anyway. Jeff

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Hello all. My question is this: I know Cod Liver Oil is top notch but what other kinds of vitamins do people take that you can recommend? And, to that Iron man guy, I have you so killfiled in all your forms so don’t even bother responding because I won’t see it anyway. Jeff

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:52:51 -0500, "Jeff" <jnewmans…@aps-botal.com

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Hello all. My question is this: I know Cod Liver Oil is top notch but what other kinds of vitamins do people take that you can recommend? And, to that Iron man guy, I have you so killfiled in all your forms so don’t even bother responding because I won’t see it anyway. Jeff

I take Vitamin D, lots of it, 3000 to 4000 IU per day.  Apart from that, just a good multi-vitamin. — From: watchman (watch…@nucleus.com) [Now ironjust...@aol.com] Newsgroups: alt.support.thyroid Date: 2002-01-12 15:56:30 PST "Look lady .. if you don’t know what you are talking about ‘medically’ .. then stay out of it .. The man has had three miscarriages/spontaneous abortions."

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Jim, you said you take a good multi-vitamin, and so do I.  But how do we know which of the many labels really are *good*? Gaylan "Jim Carter" <spam.f…@softhome.net

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:52:51 -0500, "Jeff" <jnewmans…@aps-botal.com

wrote in

alt.support.mult-sclerosis: Hello all. My question is this: I know Cod Liver Oil is top notch but

what

other kinds of vitamins do people take that you can recommend? And, to

that

Iron man guy, I have you so killfiled in all your forms so don’t even

bother

responding because I won’t see it anyway. Jeff I take Vitamin D, lots of it, 3000 to 4000 IU per day.  Apart from that,

just a

good multi-vitamin. — From: watchman (watch…@nucleus.com) [Now ironjust...@aol.com] Newsgroups: alt.support.thyroid Date: 2002-01-12 15:56:30 PST "Look lady .. if you don’t know what you are talking about ‘medically’ .. then stay out of it .. The man has had three miscarriages/spontaneous abortions."

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Question:

I am currently considering buying a Fender Bassman Blackface 100W. Some research has left me with the impression that it’s a guitarists favourite and not a bass player. Is this so, and if so, where do I look for a tube amp for the hairy sound

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My nomination for QOTW… "where do I look for a tube amp for the hairy sound?" o&o SC

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I am currently considering buying a Fender Bassman Blackface 100W. Some research has left me with the impression that it’s a guitarists favourite and not a bass player. Is this so, and if so, where do I look for a tube amp for the hairy sound

".no" = Norway? Lately, Eden amps have been highly spoken of in this ng as having great sound. I believe the model was the WT 300. Try this google.com search: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=eden&btnG=G… +Search&meta=group%3Dalt.guitar.amps Ampeg’s Rocket "reissue" Blue Diamond B100 and especially the B50 (which is 50 watts, 1-12" speaker, limited output) are good-sounding non-tube combo amps. IMHO the B50 gets real close to the vintage tube sound but it isn’t a monster in the loudness dept. For tube sound *with* the hassles of replacing expensive tubes, vintage Ampeg B25 or V4B might be a good place to start, or Music Man HD 65/130. Searching as above with these amps as key words should show you some discussion. Happy hunting! –Tom Paterson

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"where do I look for a tube amp for the hairy sound?"

Several brands come to mind:   Schick, Remington, Gillette. Ooops, no.  Cancel that.  That’s the "smooth sound" Rogain, perhaps?

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I had a CBS Bassman for awhile. It sounded nice and warm, but it didnt have the juice to carry a room, and the tone controls were rudimentary at best (very bad for me, as most of the rooms I play sound like a subway tunnel at rush hour). I eventually ebay’d it and bought some other gear. Don’t remember it having any hair;  although when I bought it, there was a dead cockroach stuck between the power tubes. — John Check out www.js3jazz.com to hear my tunes and get FREE bass lessons

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently considering buying a Fender Bassman Blackface 100W. Some research has left me with the impression that it’s a guitarists favourite and not a bass player. Is this so, and if so, where do I look for a tube amp for the hairy sound

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Wee, my first QOTW. Guess you have to be norwegian to talk about hairy sounds, as it cannot be directly translated. The sound I’m a sucker for would put me in as the backbone of Junior Kimbroughs "hairy blues". Guess I got it mixed up on the Blackface 100W, wich make me ask, is it the Blackface or the Silverface you get thrown after you instead of paying for them?

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Um.. I’m not sure what you’re asking. Mine was a silverface 50 watt. I’m not obsessed with  the blacface/silverface thing, but 100 watts still won’t have the juice with a loud band. — John Check out www.js3jazz.com to hear my tunes and get FREE bass lessons

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wee, my first QOTW. Guess you have to be norwegian to talk about hairy sounds, as it cannot be directly translated. The sound I’m a sucker for would put me in as the backbone of Junior Kimbroughs "hairy blues". Guess I got it mixed up on the Blackface 100W, wich make me ask, is it the Blackface or the Silverface you get thrown after you instead of paying for them?

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